tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post4081251541023224757..comments2024-03-06T13:20:13.719-08:00Comments on Vibhuti Narain Rai: Hashimpura: the black chapter in the history of UP Police / Vibhuti Narain Raipadmahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16929136738853998318noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-36558006493036126082015-03-24T09:54:24.628-07:002015-03-24T09:54:24.628-07:00 So far as i know, Hashimpura was an appare... So far as i know, Hashimpura was an apparent reaction to rape and burnt alive of about a dozen hindu women in jalikothi similar as gujrat riots were after godra train massacre. Muslims should realize that hindus are no more cowards.<br />it was only after hashimpura, peace and normalcy returned and is till date prevalent in Meerut. Thanks to PAC timely actions.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-91233115136642884112008-09-10T08:32:00.002-07:002008-09-10T08:32:00.002-07:00हरि ने कहा… जो लोग इस लेख या विभूति जी के इस अनुभव...हरि ने कहा… <BR/>जो लोग इस लेख या विभूति जी के इस अनुभव को साहसी बता रहें हैं वह विभूति नारायण को नहीं जानते। उनके कमिटमेंट लेबल को नहीं जानते। हकीकत यही है कि ये एेसा एक दु:स्वपन है जो न जिंदगी भर विभूति जी का पीछा छोड़ेगा, न हाशिमपुरा के लोगों का आैर न उन मीडियाकर्मियों का जिन्होंने मेरठ में 1987 की त्रासदियों को कवर किया है। मैं भी एक एेसा ही इंसान हूं जिसने मेरठ के दंगों के सच को भुगता है। दिनमान के रिपोर्टर जसवीर उर्फ जस्सी जो दुर्भाग्य से इस दुनिया में नहीं हैं आैर मैं सबसे पहले मलियाना पंहुचे थे। जहां पीएसी ने अंधाधुंध गोलियां चलाकर ग्रामीणों का नरसंहार किया था। रात ग्यारह बजे वहां से लौटकर दंगे के इस सच को जस्सी ने बीबीसी में फ्लैश कराया था। मैने उसे अमर उजाला में लिखा था। लेकिन खबर प्रकाशन के लिए तमाम जद्दोजहद के बाद तभी जा सकी थी जब बीबीसी ने उसे प्रसारित कर दिया था। उसके बाद कुछ संगठनों ने अमर उजाला की प्रतियां जलाईं थीं। पत्रकारों को भुगतने की धमकी दी थी। हाशिमपुरा तो पीएसी की इंतहा थी। मैं जानता हूं कि यदि विभूति गाजियाबाद के एसएसपी न होते आैर चौथी दुनिया न होता तो हाशिमपुरा का नंगा सच कभी सामने न आता। मैं दंगे के दौरान हाशिमपुरा की घटना का काफी हद तक साक्षी रहा हूं। मैने नहर पर नरसंहार की घटना से पहले हाशिमपुरा की फायरिंग भी देखी है जब एक तरफ से पुलिस गोलियां चला रही थी तो दूसरी तरफ से दंगाई छतों पर चढ़कर बराबर का मुकाबला कर रहे थे लेकिन इसका ये मतलब नहीं कि आप चंद सिरफिरे बदमाशों के लिए सामुहिक नरसंहार कर दो। मुझे याद है कि वीरेंद्र सेंगर किस तरह जान हथेली पर रखकर काम कर रहे थे। मैं जिस गली में घुसता वहां वीरेंद्र मिल जाते आैर पूछते तुम्हें पुलिस व पीएसी नहीं रोकती। लेकिन अफसोस कि आज तक हाशिमपुरा को इंसाफ नहीं मिला आैर न उन दंगाईयों को सजा जिन्होंने दंगे में निर्दोषों का खून बहाया।<BR/>विभूति जी आपको ये कांड हमेशा एक दु:स्वपन ही लगेगा। सिस्टम के आगे आप जैसा आदमी भी एक जगह पर आकर लाचार हो जाता है। यही सच है। कड़वा आैर नंगा सच।<BR/><BR/>September 9, 2008 5:39 AMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-83437158015609750332008-09-10T08:32:00.001-07:002008-09-10T08:32:00.001-07:00अपने से बाहर ने कहा… साहसी लेख है, बल्कि दुस्साहसी...अपने से बाहर ने कहा… <BR/>साहसी लेख है, बल्कि दुस्साहसी लेख लिखें, तो अधिक उचित होगा. धन्यवाद सर.<BR/><BR/>September 3, 2008 10:51 AMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-3699629950227845802008-09-10T08:32:00.000-07:002008-09-10T08:32:00.000-07:00बेनामी ने कहा… दिल दहला देने वाली घटना है !Septemb...बेनामी ने कहा… <BR/>दिल दहला देने वाली घटना है !<BR/><BR/>September 3, 2008 6:12 AMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-46895691357846418082008-09-10T08:31:00.001-07:002008-09-10T08:31:00.001-07:00Arvind Mishra ने कहा… आदरणीय विभूति नारायण राय जी ...Arvind Mishra ने कहा… <BR/>आदरणीय विभूति नारायण राय जी के वक्तित्व कृतित्व दोनों से परिचित हूँ -<BR/><BR/>September 3, 2008 5:57 AMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-54890467350376523922008-09-10T08:31:00.000-07:002008-09-10T08:31:00.000-07:00अफ़लातून ने कहा… पद्माजी की कहानियां पढ़ने का इन्तेज़...अफ़लातून ने कहा… <BR/>पद्माजी की कहानियां पढ़ने का इन्तेज़ार रहेगा । आज पांच नगरों पर सर्वेश्वर की पंक्तियां पोस्ट की हैं।इस पर मनविन्दर ने वहां पूछा,'मेरठ को क्यों भूल गये?' तो वहां आपके लेख की कड़ी दे दी ।<BR/><BR/>September 3, 2008 12:56 AMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-13115825725821194592008-09-10T08:30:00.000-07:002008-09-10T08:30:00.000-07:00manvinder bhimber ने कहा… aapko jeh bhi pata haoga...manvinder bhimber ने कहा… <BR/>aapko jeh bhi pata haoga ki sabhi musalmaan Meerut ke Hashimpura ke tha....<BR/>Mai us din Hashimpur ki galiuo mai reporting ke liye pahunchi thee...bada bura manjar thaaa,,,<BR/>ek police adhkaari ne PAC ko raka lekin PAc ke jawaan ne unhi per nishana dikhuya....wo manjar mujhe kai dbi tak nahi bhoola tha.<BR/>khair ....system hi essa ho to kya kahiyega<BR/><BR/>September 3, 2008 12:37 AMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-49643943339773634612008-09-10T08:29:00.000-07:002008-09-10T08:29:00.000-07:00Rakesh Kaushik ने कहा… hmari nayay prnali me bahut...Rakesh Kaushik ने कहा… <BR/>hmari nayay prnali me bahut si kamiyan hai. unhe door karne ke liye kuch jaroor karna chiye. bhagwaan se dua hai ke natija aapke paksh me aaye<BR/><BR/><BR/>ab lekh likhne par: kya sajeev chitran kiya hai aapne<BR/>adbhut<BR/><BR/>Rakesh Kaushik<BR/><BR/>September 3, 2008 12:15 AMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-56163258969658760662008-08-23T01:02:00.000-07:002008-08-23T01:02:00.000-07:00We don't know when this kind of religious battle w...We don't know when this kind of religious battle will stop. I think never.....because in human history, it starts after human civilisation got emerged and this fighting still continued to make history. <BR/>Horrifying narrartion of crime spot.सतीश पंचमhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03801837503329198421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-88128450039494124812008-08-13T22:43:00.000-07:002008-08-13T22:43:00.000-07:00one lakh demolished temples vs one babri masjidSub...one lakh demolished temples vs one babri masjid<BR/>Submitted by chathrapathi; <BR/>Mr narrow minded muslim know that mohammedan arabian islam destroyed in india one lakh temples appoximately for the last 1200 years. we did not destroy babari masjid we have reclaimed one of the temples lost during the reign of osama of the medieval age mr babur another buffoon from islam.read history before commenting, go for archeological evidence,dig there you will find it.if hindus were to really avenge they would have to destroy one lakh masjids and reclaim their lost temples and then again demolish one lakh masjids and construct temples over them for atleast 500 years.are u ready now to face the justice owing to your ancestors's cruelties on our hindu ancestors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-10240092300416244552008-08-13T22:42:00.000-07:002008-08-13T22:42:00.000-07:00First stop bringing Allah in every conversation so...First stop bringing Allah in every conversation so that conversations can move forward otherwise it is hard to say anything . Now to answer your question Babri Masjid was made on a Hindu temple so it was bound to go down now if you think it was wrong then you should have approached the judiciary and if you think state was partial then you can leave the country . Gujrat happened because of Godhra had there not been Godhra no Hindu would have killed you . Nothing happened to these cases in past 21 years because that is how judiciary in India works even Rajiv Gandhi / Indira Gandhi case took some years and there were PM with government. This is a country were even in rape case which has a direct witness takes years now by doing bomb blast and justifying them you are losing your sympathizer and making a statement that you still dont belong to this land. Even in Sikh riots there is lot of injustice but Sikhs never came out and blasted the country . There has been injustice on SC/ST for past 25000 years and they are not blasting the country.<BR/>Hindus also have sense of injustice because Muslims came to this land plundered it , divided it , destroyed there temples in India , Pakistan and Bladesh , made millions homeless/orphans/widow in Kashmir , they cannot buy land in Kashmir which is land of shiva ...one can go on and write a book.<BR/>So next time when you decide to give "Karmo ki Keemat" think of all this as there are arguments on other sides also and pushing Hindus to the limit by bombing can erase Muslims from this land as Hindus are some 80% and it doesn't good anything to the country.<BR/><BR/>Jai Hind.<BR/><BR/>PS : I am a Jain and my father worked extensively for Muslims when there were riots in Bhopal after Babri Masjid by risking himself .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-55116057313864678392008-08-13T22:40:00.000-07:002008-08-13T22:40:00.000-07:00Muslims are not anti nationalU say Who demolished ...Muslims are not anti national<BR/>U say Who demolished BABRI MASJID........I say who made BABRI masjid and where and why in that place only..becos of hatred of ur community from ages..again who made TAJ MAHAL of TEJO MAHAL..u guys or ur ancestors and cooked up a cock and bull story..so do not forget..what u sow..so u reap!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-42362527884526904252008-08-13T22:38:00.000-07:002008-08-13T22:38:00.000-07:00Regarding "Who is more anti national ? "So your ar...Regarding "Who is more anti national ? "<BR/>So your argument is Modi / Thackery / Some people in BJP did injustice to Muslims so Muslims have the right to plant bombs and kill Hindus that also means every person who has sense of injustice should plant bomb.<BR/><BR/>Well read History of India and see for yourself which community Hindus or Muslims should have more sense of injustice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-320821979464367362008-08-13T22:37:00.000-07:002008-08-13T22:37:00.000-07:00Who is more anti national ??????? Who is the terro...Who is more anti national ??????? Who is the terrorist ????<BR/><BR/>Modi engineered mass massacre. He is not blamed as terrorist.<BR/>Hashimpura police did massacre will not be named as terrorist.<BR/>Before Bombay Blast Thakry and company did massacres in Bombay, he again was not blamed as terrorist. Malyana police. Bhagalpur police .....and so on<BR/>A long list of police involvement in many false encounters, they all are not blamed as terrorist. Why because they killed muslims.....<BR/>After independence politicians have their own interest, so they act according to their calculations not as justice. After Babri Masjid Demolition and mass killing of Muslims in various cities and the police and politicians involvement in all killings, for the sake of column fulfilment the Govt. banned some Hindutwa organazation. To balance the vote they also banned Jamaate Islami for no reason. How SIMI people are blamed tortured and the media was provided Masala to engineer false stories against Muslims?<BR/>Any how this trend and mentality will definitely create anger and sense of insecurity in their own nation among Muslims. Involved police are still enjoying their post and feeding the criminal politicians.<BR/>These people are more anti national than so called Muslim terrorists.<BR/>Recent Bomb Blast is meant to give political benefit to Modi and Bhajpa.<BR/>Who can do this? Muslims or Guess ?????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-42880457713653424922008-08-08T20:08:00.001-07:002008-08-08T20:08:00.001-07:00Offcourse Muslims are not powerless bcaz they are ...Offcourse Muslims are not powerless bcaz they are having the power of Faith of Almighty God. But there are some situations in this country. You people are saying that who bombed Mumbai ? Dawood a muslim . Who attacked Akshardham ? LET a m Muslim organization . Who attacked Ayodhaya ? LeT a muslim Organization. But you people know what is the reason behind that. Who demolished the BABRI MASJID you HINDUS. Who done the communal Rights in Gujrat you Hindus. What happened to this case in past 21 years???? Nothing is happened and nothing will happened. To in kiye karmo ki keemat to chukani padegi na !!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-91240950793835386332008-08-08T20:08:00.000-07:002008-08-08T20:08:00.000-07:00Stop living in your own world and see who bombed M...Stop living in your own world and see who bombed Mumbai ? Dawood a muslim . Who attacked Akshardham ? LET a m Muslim organization . Who attacked Ayodhaya ? LeT a muslim Organization . Muslims are always blamed because of this past. Muslims are not weak and powerless if you compare them with SC/ST who have been suppressed for lot more . Even Sikhs were suppressed but they never bombed all over India , they rose and cooperated with police to weed out wrong from there society and now they are living happily so grow up and read history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-11747639021196437222008-08-08T20:07:00.000-07:002008-08-08T20:07:00.000-07:00No body is sure Muslims Bombs the city or Hindus. ...No body is sure Muslims Bombs the city or Hindus. Criminals are Criminals Doesn't matter they are in Police service or in any other prestigious position. However Muslims are always blamed of any wrong because they are weak and powerless. Their voice will be suppressed. Thanks to the Good Hindu's the are the treasures of the mother land India. In future their effort may bring peace and harmony among the citizens. But at this moment they would also have to face a bit resistance from the Hate Engineering Department.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-51757086207329265192008-08-08T12:39:00.000-07:002008-08-08T12:39:00.000-07:00As a teacher of journalism, a documentary film mak...As a teacher of journalism, a documentary film maker, and Christian in the Protestant reformed tradition, I'm deeply affected by the courage and the perseverance of your writing and work. The South Asian Contact Group alerted me to your blog spot - a really bright light in cyberspace. Thank you Sri Rai.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-10201853626220758122008-08-08T03:39:00.000-07:002008-08-08T03:39:00.000-07:00i am sure this story provide enough reason for the...i am sure this story provide enough reason for the muslims to bomb one more indian city , they wouldn't notice the fact that one hindu is fighting for this case for muslim , so go ahead and plant some more bombs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3294502058800125720.post-68884135184236572522008-08-07T08:59:00.000-07:002008-08-07T08:59:00.000-07:00This is in reply to what Sri Rai has to say about ...This is in reply to what Sri Rai has to say about religion having a negative effect on police functioning in India-<BR/>Being a religious person is not limited to people belonging to a particular faith, be it Hindus or Muslims. And secularism is not as straight a concept as is being made out at times. <BR/>What is religion, can be a question of long discussions. Everyone who thinks, says or feels as being a religious person or acknowledges a religion might have his/her facts based on individual understanding, preference and mental makeup. But can there be a denial that the majority of people in this world are believers in one or other religion. Those not being among this group are either those who don’t believe in a particular religion but do believe in God or those who do not believe in any kind of God as the creator of this universe. There are others who prefer ignoring this question as being unanswerable or not being important enough to be answered. And yet, many of these thoughts themselves get developed as a religion of their own. Marxism, Leninism, Maoism, Buddhism and to some extent Lokayat are examples of this.<BR/>What it means is that people are prone to find some kind of external, super-natural, faith based support for themselves which gives them strength in times of need or a scapegoat for things having gone wrong or as a constant companion or invisible caretaker looking after his/ her welfare. It is what you might call the Feel-good factor. <BR/>Religion that started in this manner slowly acquired regimental proportions and fixed attires with the passage of time. It automatically resulted in clear lines of division being drawn among the followers of different faith /sect /religion. With it came the feeling of superiority, feeling of being better than the others, the concept of survival and the accomplished struggles for existence and all the paraphernalia. If someone going to a service starts feeling so much attached to his service, having joined it at a rather ripe age of 20 +, think of the kind of attachment religion has with the psyche of a man who has been born and brought up with it and which has been there at every moment when he/she has been passing through the journey called life- in fear, in pain, in success, in failure, in times of happiness, in sadness, in life and in death. How can we think that a person will remain unattached to the phenomenon call religion? Che Guevera lost his life for the religion called Marxism. Bhagat Singh hung himself for the religion called Bharat Mata and the goddess called humanity. <BR/>But to say that a person (at least the greater proportion of it) can or will remain immune to or unaffected by religion is to close our eyes to reality and to ignore facts for fiction. And human race, being what it is, is bound to incorporate all sorts of distortions in the format called religion. When we had our Constitution made, could we think of such unexpected situations cropping up, so as to put everyone in fix as what to do? The same holds true of religion. It has taken all shapes, all forms, all formats, all structures and all complexities. <BR/>But what has religion to do with police? Every thing. Every where. Wars are fought in the name of religion. Riots take place in the name of religion. An inter-religious marriage can be a cause of great concern. Killing of a few animals are much more sensitive issues than those hapless and helpless ones who did not have the good fortune of being adopted by some of the religions. Terrorist activities are going on all over the globe in the name of religion. A building as high as the WTC gets demolished within hours for the sake of religion. The police officers of many countries begin their day officially with some kind of religious prayer. The US Constitution, the source of all powers and authorities in that most powerful country, including policing, has words that say- “In God we believe”. <BR/>So, to see the entire phenomenon through the reference point of a few examples is doing injustice to this hugely intricate and deeply submerged concept. Babri demolition or Hashimpura or apparent religious bias of the PAC or killing of Mrs. Gandhi by her bodyguards or Jaipur/ Hyderabad/ Varanasi bomb blasts shall all be seen in a holistic manner and not in isolation. <BR/>Religion is opium, said the Lord of the New Faith which resulted in thousands of people killed, tortured and eliminated. And he was absolutely correct. It is the most powerful drug invented so far. But more importantly, it comes in various shapes and sizes- in many Brands. And no brand is less fatal or potent than the other.<BR/>Thus, with all due regards, I would like to state that some of Sri Rai’s view look lop-sided and skewed in one particular direction.<BR/><BR/>Amitabh Thakur,<BR/>SP,<BR/>Intelligence,<BR/>Faizabad,<BR/>UP, India<BR/># 94155-34526Amitabh Thakurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15060954860686303581noreply@blogger.com